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PostSubject: coop 45 mod   Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:18 pm

This is a mod for the 700 k.q. to efectively lower the gear ratio. It will effect top end but will give you a major low end boost. If interested p.m. me for info.
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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:16 pm

Definitely a must do mod in conjunction with an EPI yellow secondary spring. Thumb I bought my shims from www.mcmaster-carr.com . They are .1mm each in a pack of 25. Mcmaster p/n 98055A242 for $6.25 a pack. The max I could shim my 2007 was 1.5mm and still have enough spline to engage the fixed plate properly. I don't think I would want it any lower though.
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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Fri May 23, 2008 6:52 pm

I did this to mine today as a temp fix until my Dalton Clutch kit gets here Tuesday. I wanted more low end instead of Mid-Range. I did the 1mm instead of the 1.5mm. All I can sayis WOW! It works great.

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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:25 pm

Cleaned up my clutch today and decided to do the coop mod. even when i tried .5 shim, the outter primary would rub against the cage, ever here of this problem??
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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:41 am

ollie wrote:
Cleaned up my clutch today and decided to do the coop mod. even when i tried .5 shim, the outter primary would rub against the cage, ever here of this problem??

I had the 1mm shim on my 450 with a Dalton kit and affraid

It should not rubb Ollie....Dumb question and i'll get a your a dumb@$$ answer Laughing Laughing ...but are you sure the shimm was only.5mm Thats aweful small....use a sparkplug gap checker to measure...it will be more acurate.

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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:54 am

Used a file gauage and digital caliper. I thought i might have got the wrong shims. two 1mm and two .5mm. they all measured correct.
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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:30 am

Found out some guys had to shim there cage after installing the shims on the primary. Not about to take it all apart again! It will be done on my next cleaning/ belt check.
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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:30 am

ollie wrote:
Used a file gauage and digital caliper. I thought i might have got the wrong shims. two 1mm and two .5mm. they all measured correct.

Yeah it may have been the wrong shims....I'll get the part # for you if i can find it again....ther eoff a Yamaha Snowmobile.

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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:34 am

Thats the ones i got. they all measured correct. I am going to find or make some shims for the cage. How you got your spring on without help i will never know! It was a PITA!
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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:36 am

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Thats the ones i got. they all measured correct. I am going to find or make some shims for the cage. How you got your spring on without help i will never know! It was a PITA!

The KQ 450 Dalton only has Weights. The OEM is Great on the 450....I miss the 450 sometimes it was a great bike. Sad but i love the Torque of the V-Twin. Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:41 am

! i am going to be riding the king for a while so i might as well get used to it, unless the i can give it to the wife, THEN i will get me something bigger!!!! Got to keep up with you and big daddy!
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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:52 am

I did the shims and it rubbed my cage too. I put little tiny spacers behind the three mounting points on the cage and also a little bit of grinding, good as new!
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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:17 pm

So no problems with shimming the cage? I will it next belt cleaning/check. Want to low end everybody else got with this mod!
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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:34 pm

No problems that I can see. I used very thing little donut washers behing the three mounting points. Seems to work just fine. There was a rough noise in there at first and it had me concerned. That is when I pulled the cage off and could see that the primary had been rubbing at low or idle speed. I rode the snot out of it while I was home on leave, and it did just fine. No noise, nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:42 pm

cool. I am going to make some washers for shimming the cage. I am going to drill the stock rollers down to 18 gram and see how it works out, I want more low end than i got with the 20's.
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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:35 pm

ollie wrote:
cool. I am going to make some washers for shimming the cage. I am going to drill the stock rollers down to 18 gram and see how it works out, I want more low end than i got with the 20's.

I got some weights for a KQ. I'll look tomorrow and see what they are. I think i have 4... 17 gram weights. I could be wrong on the weight. On mine you had to stager them every other one on the lighter ones. You can have them if there any help to you. Very Happy There out of a Dalton kit.

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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:09 am

Thanks Boot! I'll owe ya one. had my guys in the shop make all my King clutch tools, also got a very nice Micrometer. If you need anything let me know!
( all we use here is stainless and aluminum.)
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PostSubject: Re: coop 45 mod   Sat May 02, 2009 7:08 pm

Hey guys, I just got my new Coop45 mod#3 up and going! no more primary sheave rubbing, and no more loss in top end, now you can have your cake and eat it too!
Great 2mm like bottom end, and no top speed loss!

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