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PostSubject: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:35 am


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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:42 pm

Thats is such a teaser , and a good one at that . I want one of those BAD.

So do you other KQ owners get wheelie action off the line in normal sitting positition ?
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:33 pm

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So do you other KQ owners get wheelie action off the line in normal sitting positition ?

In the stock configuration. NOPE!
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:18 am

The 750 with EPS that I test rode would wheelie off the line.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:01 am

Kawi and Arctic Cat need to step it up and go with power steering as well.

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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:50 pm

I have a dalton clutch and a VDI in my KQ 750 and it still wont wheelie off the line .
Id like to change the exhaust but then id have to start messing with the maps and thats a whole nuther level .
I bet the coop mod would do it .
Dont realy matter anyhow ittl do 75 mph
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:21 pm

All the new 750's I rode while pulling them out front at Lansford would wheelie......when I got my Red one all it had was a 2mm mod and 27's and it would. It will now with 28 inch Silveracks on it...but its not stock anymore....lol.

Dirtdobber....something is not right if yours won't with a VDI and Dalton kit.... scratch It should do it real easy...is it spinning instead of pulling the front up??

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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:22 pm

pwm wrote:
Kawi and Arctic Cat need to step it up and go with power steering as well.

Get you a new KQ 750 with power steering PWM... Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:23 pm

I will take one too if PWM is buying. Stir the Pot
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:04 pm

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I will take one too if PWM is buying. Stir the Pot
If I hit powerball, I will get us both one

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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:49 pm

Mine never would Boot , i pulled the winch off and it will barely pull the tires off , with the stock ECU.
I dont run the VDI because i notived it drank way to much fuel .
Plus its harder to crank when its cold .
I take my VDIs with me everywhere i go though.
And no its not spinning .
My buddies old beat to heck 700 will pull umm up everytime bone stock .
Pisses me off that mine wont when its a newish 750.
Hey , you mentioned doing the snorks BOOT .
Id like to take you up on that , say i bring up both bikes a KQ450 and KQ750 and ill bring the VDI's for fun < We do the snorks and ride some at pickett , you can ride my 750 or 450 and you can go nuts im not worried i got insurance .
Also ill pay you for your services and ill bring plently of ABS and elbows and my truck and aluminum trailer that will haul 2 bikes .
Let me know , im not a cheap butt either .So imsure we can work out a deal but if im coming to crossville with 2 KQ's im gonna want togo to Pickett for at least A SMALL RIDE .
Hopefully 40 miles befor i head back here with the snorked bikes .
Im pretty good wrench turner to so you wont be left with just some idiot standing there , I can have the plastic off in mins.Putting it back on maybe an hour ,urrrrgggggg.
PM me if you really want to do umm.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:10 pm

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Mine never would Boot , i pulled the winch off and it will barely pull the tires off , with the stock ECU.
I dont run the VDI because i notived it drank way to much fuel .
Plus its harder to crank when its cold .
I take my VDIs with me everywhere i go though.
And no its not spinning .
My buddies old beat to heck 700 will pull umm up everytime bone stock .
Pisses me off that mine wont when its a newish 750.
Hey , you mentioned doing the snorks BOOT .
Id like to take you up on that , say i bring up both bikes a KQ450 and KQ750 and ill bring the VDI's for fun < We do the snorks and ride some at pickett , you can ride my 750 or 450 and you can go nuts im not worried i got insurance .
Also ill pay you for your services and ill bring plently of ABS and elbows and my truck and aluminum trailer that will haul 2 bikes .
Let me know , im not a cheap butt either .So imsure we can work out a deal but if im coming to crossville with 2 KQ's im gonna want togo to Pickett for at least A SMALL RIDE .
Hopefully 40 miles befor i head back here with the snorked bikes .
Im pretty good wrench turner to so you wont be left with just some idiot standing there , I can have the plastic off in mins.Putting it back on maybe an hour ,urrrrgggggg.
PM me if you really want to do umm.

you need to have someone Tune your VDI on a Wideband...If its not starting good and drinks fuel something is wrong

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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:24 pm

It starts pretty well even at 20 F With the VDI but they are known to be harder to start in cold weather with the VDI , its all over Nyroc they say the best solution is iridium plugs.
Some folk say dang near impossible.
And there are many cures for it on Nyroc.
Anyhow , i spoke at length with Lyle the fellow who made the VDI and on the 750 KQ tuned as best you can tune it ,,,,two things are always gonna happen Boot , according to Lyle #1 is harder cold starts and by that i meen like 15 seconds harder , nothing really .
And# 2 , its gonna use more fuel ,period.
Good things are it will run cooler and faster and has an incredible power curve.
I dont really see the need for any more power , unless im racing but i do need fuel economy for the 100 mile plus rides .
IN CO we didnt even carry fuel can spares after a few days because we were going 100 miles and still having 2 bars left so we could always ride and get to some gas.
I found that at 10k and up in elevation the KQ gets really good gas milage , which Lyle the owner of VDI confirmed , youll have to ask him to explain it .

Now if i changed my pipe things get even more drastic .Lyle said with the injector and a open pipe and the VDI the power of the KQ750 is unreal , Its dramatically different .
He said it was the KQ 750 was VDIs best app. He said it was his proudest creation.But also some fuel is going through, un burnt, hince the need for better plugs .
Also the reson behind some of the back firing .
Its get so tecnical after that youll have to talk to him .
Anyhow, thats why i prefer to run stock ecu in winter and VDI in summer .
Also the VDI does not store codes .
At least that what Lyle said .I think the combo of the winch and the radial tires are a small factor in it not wheeling .But today without the winch it lifted about 4 inches , but that was all.

If in ever get a pipe im gonna need some serious tuning help no doubt , also he told me snorking the bike will change the tuning to in case you are running the VDI.
I dont have a source for anybody here that i know yet that can tune at that level.
Call Lyle sometime hes cool and will share info , and he loves the big single cylinder KQ750.
And he loves to talk about how the VDI really kicks in the KQ 750


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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:32 pm

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......I think the combo of the winch and the radial tires are a small factor in it not wheeling .But today without the winch it lifted about 4 inches , but that was all.


Okay, what do Radial Tires got to do with whether it will Wheelie or not......Explain that to me?
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:38 pm

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Dirt Dobber wrote:
......I think the combo of the winch and the radial tires are a small factor in it not wheeling .But today without the winch it lifted about 4 inches , but that was all.


Okay, what do Radial Tires got to do with whether it will Wheelie or not......Explain that to me?

They combined with the winch are heavier .
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:43 pm

Hmmmm......I would think that 750cc would pull the back racks off......I tell you what I think it is. The timing on the King is Retarded.....(No Pun Intented)
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:46 pm

How do i fix that ? with my stock ECU ? How can i adjust timing on my stock bike ???

And i can figure it out with the VDI.
Just change the map .
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:10 pm

Only way to change the timing is with the VDI.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:13 pm

Yeah , Rooster you got a secret ????
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:14 pm

More like a Secret Weapon!
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:22 pm

Several Articles on NYROC indicate that the timing is retarded, which means when you stab the throttle there is a lag. This lag can be altered........

http://www.nyrocatv.com/forum.cgi?viewcat=4&viewtopic=15973&searchtext=Retard

In this particular article, you will notice that the timing retard can be changed by the VDI programming as Ollie said.

In the stock configuration and at a stand still it is very difficult for the King to pull a wheelie. Now if anyone would like to try they can come over to my house and we will test that theory. As mine is mainly stock except for the COOP Mod #3. The only wheelies I have been able to get were at speed and stabbing the throttle on a small hump in the trail. It will do it then.
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:35 pm

So not even with the coop mod , sad.

If i drop a knee it will drop me on my asis.

I guess amoung the other 10 million computer things i have to do such as promoting my buisness , ill have to break down and learn to map the VDI , and i suck at stuff like that .
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:57 pm

I still think something is not right...cause I could pull them on the ones at Lansfords that I rode around the lot. Are you guy just sitting straight up on the seat and hitting WOT?? If so, its hard to get the KQ to do it like that stock...all you have to do is get it going about 3 mph...let it slow down real quick and hit WOT and it should come up no problem. I rode mine this evening and it will stand straight up with 28 inch Silverbacks....but that is with a few mods.

Rooster, the day I rode your by your Barn it would pull one then. After days and a LOT of hours researching and talking to about 20 different people I think I have got it figured out with the clutching. My new Rollers will be here tomorrow....if the UPS don't get snowed in.... Laughing I talked to EPI for about 30 minutes yesterday and learned a lot from them.....Also ordering Speedwerx roller weights for the Arctic Cat for mine next week...going to try them out....from what they say thats where its at for bigger tires and if your wanting more low end. I think I like learning about the bikes and modding them more than I do riding...lol

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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:57 pm

Just download a map that fits your mods, down load it to the VDI. There are 100's of maps to choose from. Save them on your computer ( one for summer,one for winter)
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PostSubject: Re: 2009 Suzuki King Quad 750 with Power Steering...   Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:00 pm

Bootlegger wrote:
...all you have to do is get it going about 3 mph...let it slow down real quick and hit WOT and it should come up no problem.

I will try that next time I have it out and see.

But Mr. Dobber, the COOP Mod #3 is worth every penny he charges. I would not turn back from that.
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