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PostSubject: Audio tube question   Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:24 pm

Do those of you that have one run a seperate 12 volt plug straight from the battery or use the one provided? I am asking because if I use the factory plug while not riding it will drain the battery, I am assuming with the key turned on everything electrical is running along with the radio. I installed an Optima battery but have not tried running the radio with it yet. Any input or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:11 pm

I ran mine from the switch so that when powered off, it does not drain the battery in the case I forget to turn it off.

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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:43 am

If your 12v outlet turns off with the key you can tap right in to it under the plastic. If the audio pipe comes of put an inline plug.
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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:01 am

power consumption for running a radio is pretty low, unless you driving a huge amp, unless battery was weak to start with you'd have to run it an extreme amount of time to negatively effect the battery. I've ran my radio 6+ hours before without an issue,, on standard honda battery.
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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:45 pm

You can just run it off your Cig lighter.. Your canam will be fine.. The Cig lighter dies when key is off and if you want it off while riding just unplug it or get a Plug with a switch on it.

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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:39 am

Running a 200 watt amp and it would run the battery down even when riding. I will be trying the Odyssy (not optima as stated in 1st post) out Saturday. Hope it holds up better.
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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:29 pm

Dang why so Big of a amp?
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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:22 am

BOOM BOOOM BOOM over the exhaust.
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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:07 pm

I hope your talking peak Wattage and your RMS wattage is much lower, else you maybe exceeding what the alternator for the atv can supply the battery, if so you maybe draining the battery. Thus if you can figure the following it should tell you what you can and cannot do. This works for auto's so same calculations can be used. Find you ATV's alternators rating AMP rating multiply this by 40% this should tell you the amount of reserve your battery has, exceed this and your not going to start quad after. Like Chris said 200 watt????, I use to run a 50 watt amp, ran great, even when running a loud HMF pipe and wearing a helmet.

Another question is your audio tube store bought or homemade. if home made you'll want to ensure your running the same impedance. there are typically 4 and 8 ohm speakers, and amps, usually sometime have a switch for 4 to 8 ohms, they need to match. Car, boat, and in this case atv speakers are 4 ohm, 8 ohm is mainly home electronics. In a car audio environment the voltage is low therefore there needs to be a higher current.In order to achieve this higher current the resistance (impedance) needs to be less, so that is why the 4 ohm speakers are used.

If you really want to get technical and figure it all out I copied the following from Crutchfield's website, this way you could become the AMP guru:

To calculate the current draw of an amplifier, multiply the number of channels by the RMS watts per channel (a 2 channel amp rated at 300 watts RMS per channel would be 600 watts). Double it to account for amplifier inefficiency (600 watts X 2 = 1200 watts), then divide by the average output Voltage of an alternator, 13.8 volts (1200 divided by 13.8 = 87 amps). Since the average music signal requires about 1/3rd of the average power in a test tone, divide by 3 (87 amps divided by 3 = 29 amps). The result is the amplifier's approximate average current draw.
A fast-and-nasty way to ballpark an amplifier's current draw is to divide the total fuse value of the amp by two. For amplifiers with multiple fuses, the rating of all fuses provided with the amp must be added together. This will likely produce a significantly higher estimate than using the proper formula. Although inaccurate, this will err on the side of safety.
Finally, compare the amplifier's approximate current draw to your vehicle's reserve current capacity to determine if the electrical system can support the amplifier.
If all those numbers are a bit much, here's a simpler way to think about it: an alternator capable of producing 65 amperes is usually adequate for systems up to 270 X 2 watts RMS. A compact car with a 35-amp alternator can accommodate around 150 X 2 watts of power, while a Sport Utility with a 145-amp alternator can handle a 600 X 2 watt system. A capacitor can help if your system is drawing a little too much power. Car audio competitors often replace their vehicle's alternators with heavy-duty upgrades to accommodate big power demands.
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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:59 pm

Thanks for the info, used radio all day with the Odyssy battery with no problems at all. The radio is store built (Boss atv20) it was the cheapest I could find and works really well. Chris, had to have something I could hear.

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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:40 pm

You picked a good battery! I've heard a lot of good about the Odyssey's. When my factory battery dies that's what I'm getting.

FYI...Boss usually over rates their power ratings but they do make some good stuff. Sounds to me like your original battery may have been going south on you. I run fine off the stock battery and I run a homemade system with 2 Pyle audiophile 6 1/2's with a Sony 35w rms x2 amp, a mobile 2 way radio and the hid headlights (if night riding) and haven't had an issue with the stock battery draining.
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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:46 am

I understand on something you can hear.

I dont even know why I have audio pipes, as My HMF are so loud you cant hear them anyway..

Hmmmmm may be time to upgrade to a Ron Woods since there nice and quiet Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:04 am

I have heard your HMF and agree it is very loud.
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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:32 pm

I heard his HMF, and mine, popeye, Haneys, got to love that sound Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:32 pm

Agreed ollie. Mine may sound like that one of these days.
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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:30 am

You have heard My HMF? I didnt know we had rode together?

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PostSubject: Re: Audio tube question   Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:15 pm

I have seen/heard you a couple of times at the annex.
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